I love these “millenial” memes because you can always tell about how old the meme maker is.
There are millenials that are in their mid 40s, and there are zoomers that are almost 30. Assuming they were just going for a round number, the creator could have said 50, 45 or 40. But no, they chose 35, presumably because they are around 35.
Being born in the early 80’s… we’ve seen a lot.
I still remember when crackpots thought the world was gonna end in 2012. When that time came. I just looked at my cat and said ‘hey kitty, we’re still here!’
I’m pretty sure we did all die that day. We’re clearly in hell at this point.
I was working in Tech when the Tech Crash in 99 happened, working in the only large Investment bank that went bankrupt in the 2008 Crash and living in Britain when Brexit won the Leave Referendum.
Seen it all happen from a “safe” distance. Damn you’re unlucky in a way.
That’s unlucky as heck. I always think about how I decided last minute to go to get an associates instead of going to the typical four year. I ended up graduating and getting a job right before the financial crash. A pretty significant amount of my friends were still in college and couldn’t get jobs for years if ever (at least related to their degree)
Yep, I was one of those people who couldn’t get a job. Super cool to go back to your grocery store job you had as a seasonal gig during college to work full time after you got a degree and no one was hiring. Then I actually tried to move up the corporate ladder there just to be blackballed by all the non degree having half brain dead people working in management there that were intimidated by me passing them up at the next level.They would promote way less qualified people over me with the excuse that they were worried I would leave if I got in a career job. The 1st 3 years after college was fucking dark. To get an office job, I had to work at this shady ass limo company for a while, then they went belly up, and I had to work in a warehouse. Finally like 5 years later, I got an actual job in my field. I always said that I wished I just worked full time after highschool. Could have bought a house in the correction, and even if I worked some shitty wage slave gig out of highschool, I’d be 100x more well off than I am today. Houses in my town were at least somewhat affordable then, (6-700k) now they are 1.8 mil +.
Well, after my first crash and being out of a job for 6 months because of it, I’ve always been very prepared for that kind of situation so when Lehman Brothers went down I was just fine because I had plenty of savings (and was even asked back after a month because the division I was working with was bought by a Japanese Brokerage and remained operating) and similary when Leave won, not only had I “just in case” financially protected my savings from the hit on the British Pound if Leave won, but I could and did chose to leave Britain before the actual Leave date because I expected that country to increasingly suffer from the effects of leaving the EU.
So in a way, after the first one it wasn’t too bad.
The goofy part about this type of generational cock contest meme is that we all live through it together. Every generation alive has gone through horrific shit and every generation has gone through periods of peace. Some for longer than others.
I’m a millennial and I have been pretty lucky if I may say so myself. Compared to what young people and kids go through today, us older generations had it good.
Yes, our times of youth also brought on wars and economic struggles and what not, but they came in intervals.
Nowadays it is all happening at the same time and at lightening speed.
And us peeps, boomers, Gen X and millennials sit here all smug about it, like we went through ANYTHING comparable to what young people go through today.
We had it good. We are lucky to all be in our 30s and up during this stretch of history. I feel for the youths of today. They are the ones going through some shit in their formative years.
The 2020s are happening to all of us, but the kids of today have way more worries thrust upon them than any of us old fucks ever did.
We had a lot of things pretty good. Since we don’t have TV, I’ve spent the last year every weekend creating a 2.5 hour block of tailored programming to recreate the experience of Saturday morning cartoons for my kid, with selections from ~60 of the best (and some bad) cartoons from the last several decades, animated music videos, unearthed funny old clips, and modern indie animations, often with seasonal themes. Halloween is the most fun.
My toons are objectively better than the Saturday morning block ever was, and it takes hours every week to gather clips, edit, and manage where we’re at with every show. I sometimes wish I could share it with a larger crowd but it’s really not worth the expense, legal exposure, or effort - not to mention it’s more special since it’s just for my kiddo. I get to share the culture with him, with the crusts cut off. They don’t have to put up with commercials, bad reception, or the constant ear-splitting blare of homophobia that was the nineties.
All that to say, that’s the big picture too. Every generation we try to make things a little better for the young ones. Sometimes we’re pretty envious of them, but we’d be failures if things were completely better when we were kids - and they’ll have to work hard too, because in some ways we have been failing.
Haven’t boomers been drafted to Vietnam by force? Like you had to go there to die, no options.
I think being forced to fight a war is pretty worse than most issues of people that age now.
At least we are talking about young people who live in active combat zones right now. I’m just taking the euroamerican centristic view on the matter.
Lol, well, if we go by that standard, then we can all ride the coat tails of the soldiers of every generation who were drafted to fight someone else’s war. My country, per capita, were the country to lose the most men in Afghanistan. I have friends who went to Afghanistan and their experiences were varied.
But my point still stands: the bad in every generation came in intervals and affected groups differently. A lot of boomers had nothing to do with Vietnam just like a lot of Gen X and millennials had nothing to do with Iraq and Afghanistan.
But we all had slower lives and we did get to be relatively protected in childhood from the worst of the news out there.
In this day and age, youths and children are bombarded woth the most heinous shit 24/7 and it is everything, everywhere, all at once.
None of the prior generations have had back to back to back terrible world events happening like the youths of today have. We all live through it, but most of us are old enough and hardened enough by life that we deal with it.
I don’t think it is a coincidence that anxiety among children and youths today has sky rocketed. And it isn’t just news, it is also the negative effects of social media and that whole psychosis and how it distorts and perverts identity and self love nowadays.
There is no contest. It is not remotely anything our generations had to deal with.
And yeah, we can make a ton of whataboutisms where we pick out minority groups who went to war or were brought up in war torn countries. That has happened and will happen always.
But none of us old facts had the perversion of current day internet to deal with on top of intervals of this and that crisis and none of us had to deal with all our generations’ crises all at the same time over the span of a few years. That is what I’m saying. We simply cannot imagine what it is like for the young ones today because their world is so far removed from the world we grew up in.
I am a millennial, neither an old or a young millennial, but an in the middle one. I grew up in a world without internet and had myself introduced to the world wide web in my teens. My childhood and teen hood is still much closer to that of a boomer’s childhood and teen hood than it is the kids and teens today. I cannot comprehend what childhood even looks like or feels like for kids today. All I know is that anxiety and body image issues and thoughts of world problems have sprung from the mouths of kindergarteners and that is not something I have seen to this extent ever before.
I still think going to war is worse than watching some news about whatever on the tv or tiktok.
Btw, mental health issues are not on the rise. Diagnosis is on the rise. Before those same mental health issues existed and were undiagnosed and untreated, with terrible consequences. At least kids today are getting the help they need with mental health.
Good luck in the 80s trying to go to a doctor for anxiety, or to get any kind of mental health diagnosis or treatment as a kid.
And let’s not even mention the constant house violence against kids that used to happen. Boomers and gen x were wildly beaten by their parents as a normal practice. Nowadays parents no longer hit their kids.
Child protection laws are way better in every way, many kids are no longer forced to stay with abusive families…
And of course there is a world in difference for an LGBT kid in the 80s compared to now.
I sincerely don’t think there is any reasonable approach to defend that today kids “have it worse” than previous generation.
Its getting uncomfortably accurate
Something something meme seized by the state for redistribution
41 years old and I’ve lived through 4 once in a lifetime economic events, one impending societal collapse (Y2K), a global pandemic, and the Afghanistan and Iraq wars. I vote Giant Meteor 2025, just get it over with already.
There’s a few genocides in there too. Also I sleep in an abandoned house for like 6mo after the housing bubble burst. Whole neighborhoods where a light never turned on. All speculation market.
Honestly I could have written a novel worth of things, but I wanted to keep it short.
I thought it was the dotcom crash and great recession, in addition to the ones you mentioned war on “terror” and pandemic.
2000 dot com crash, 2008 housing bubble, 2020 COVID recession, 2025 tariff downturn and looming crash. (That’s not including the recessions from the 80’s and 90’s)
I count Afghanistan and Iraq separately, they were two very different wars and fought for different reasons. Afghanistan was because of 9/11, Iraq was oil and regime change.
The same group of Americans all worried about the anti-Christ found the one guy who matches the profile and decided to make him President. Twice.
Accelerationists and bigots make up a large chunk of that bloc, and “temporarily embarrassed millionaires” make up the rest.
(The oligarchs that bought him don’t count in the same group as the plebeians.)
Religious accelerationists are beyond my understanding. Provoke God into action? And how exactly do you plan to avoid God’s judgement? I mean religious extremists often give impression like they think their God is stupid and you just need to find a loophole in the rules.
God is omnipotent. He doesn’t need our help to sound the trumpets and bring about Revelation.
It’s like they started at Genesis, got bored in Leviticus, and skipped to the end of Revelation without bothering to read about that pesky Jesus fella in the middle.
Bold of you to assume they even opened a bible to start with
It’s a mental illness, it doesn’t make sense, and its no use trying to make sense of it.
They were made in God’s image and they are morons therefore God is a moron. - Moron Thinking
Moron Logical Fallacy - A moron who has the unfounded belief that they are smarter than anyone else and anyone who claims otherwise is a moron.
I mean, there’s literally an “actual” case in the Bible. I’m not even religious, so sorry if I can’t provide much detail, but in the story of Sodoma and Gomorrah there’s this bloke who asks God to save one soul. After God says okay, he’s like, if you could save one, couldn’t you save another? Then he proceeds to get God to save everyone in the same vein.
Yeah, God in his infinite wisdom and his mysterious ways (of being convinced by a 10 cent trick).
I hate to burst your bubble there, but actually it’s the exact opposite. Abraham hears what God is going to do to Sodom and Gomorrah (and that’s only because God chooses to tell him), and thinks to himself, “Oh shit, my cousin is there. I don’t want him to die.”
So Abraham starts out small. He says, “if I can find 50 good people, you won’t murderhobo everyone?” “Fine,” God replies. Now Abraham has something he can work with. He tries 45, God says cool. Abraham gets God to agree on 40, 30, 20, 10, each time God agrees. At 10, God up and leaves, and Abraham just chills there.
But of course, they can’t find even 10 in those cities. Oh well
Yeah, that’s the story. Thanks for the correction.
God’s just trying to avoid a buffer overflow. So only one person per request.
What if you 👉
wanted to go to heaven ☁️
But God said ☝️
429 Too Many Requests
There are a lot of us who’ve been paying close attention, though, and are doing all we can.
I was 17 when 9/11 happened and I’ve been watching and learning. Now is the time to move
You may be able to survive the shakeup. Maybe a loved one doesn’t end up in Lubbock or Alcatraz or CECOT. Maybe your neighborhood looks like it always did.
Maybe your state plays nice with the feds. Maybe it doesn’t. Maybe shit gets hairy. The people pulling Trump’s strings want Christian Nationalism and they’ll get it, at least here in the South. We fought em before and we’ll fight em again. We may lose, though.
The time for action is here.
Meanwhile mid-40s walking through world ending pollution:
This place is so much better without all the cigarette smoke!
I also appreciate the restoration of our ozone layer. I remember there was a time (when above a certain latitude at least) my skin would fucking burn in less than 5 minutes under direct sun, it’s a lot better now but it seems weird we all just kind of collectively forgot about that time when we all nearly ended the world to such a degree that we could feel it outside, then we all reversed course and fixed it mostly.
I wonder if we would be more motivated to fix our current issues if they caused skin burns.
The weird thing is that it worked too well. Like Y2K, it was fixed so it became a nothing burger. Now everyone thinks it was an overreaction and don’t want to keep fixing things.
I remember people talking about not curing covid as fast because then people wouldn’t take the next pandemic as seriously.
This is a great point on how regulation can work and how we, as a society, need to do better celebrating our accomplishments.
The holes in the ozone layer were over the poles. You never experienced it.
Both can be true.
I’m tired of living through “interesting times”.
Except it’s not interesting anymore. It’s been a cycle of the same bullshit over and over again.
“Shouldn’t have wished to live in more interesting times” -Tav, Baldur’s Gate 3
That’s the point though - it wasn’t a good thing
Young me in 2012 “I want to live through interesting times” 🤔 rather than being bored. Little did I know.
Correct. When I was living in Reno there was a doomsday DATE people decided on. It was a huge thing. A bunch of people just bought in. People euthanizing their pets, just madness. Day came. Nothing happened. It’s amazing what people fall for. It’s very sad.
I remember people following Harold Camping’s doomsday predictions. They sold their houses, bought RVs, preached that The End is Nigh, etc. The day came and went like any other. He revised the date a couple of times, but of course world didn’t end. I just can’t believe people are that gullible.
Desperate people are the easiest to sucker. That’s why so many scams target people looking for jobs.
What if the world has ended multiple times before but since this is a simulation, we just have no memory of the actual cataclysm because the operators of the simulation restored the server using backups so all memories of the event were purged? 🤔
What if this happens every Thursday?
- “Oh no everything will crash at the end of 1999 !”
- “Wait nothing happened… but that because it will definitely happen in fact at the end of 2000 ! Because there’s no year 0, we start at year 1, you see”
It was difficult to deal with the disappointment after all the hype 😢
Millions of man-hours were put in to keep Y2K from happening. In their coverage of New Year’s Eve 1999, ABC cut to the Y2K control room where people were amazed nothing was happening.
The only recognition all of those folks got for all of their work to keep the lights on and the planes in the air was the movie Office Space, and people who were disappointed they didn’t fail.
For all the verbal fellatio Office Space receives I was expecting it to be a god-like ultimate peak of human culture type deal but in reality it was a mid movie humor and plot wise. Its not bad but its very catery to a specific audience I wasn’t part of. I can see it being one of the first and few relatable films for white collar cubicle boglins at the turn of the century which feels like pretty much the sole reason of why I have to see it occasionally referenced 25 years later.
You’re right that it’s one of the few relatable films about that, but what gives it the staying power is that it is still relevant for the sort of work they’re doing. All of the things they talk about are the same 25 years later, except now they don’t know I’m not wearing pants since it’s on Zoom. Silicon Valley is in the same vein, and created by the same guy. I expect him to make “Home Office Space” shortly.
It must have felt very weird to be working to prevent Y2K while everyone else was hoping for a good show, and in the end see people be disappointed instead of impressed because nothing happened 😅
Watching things crash is always more interesting than watching things work perfectly as usual…
Still better than what most of the people before us lived through. It’s just that our parents were especially lucky with the time period they lived in.
The idea that people before us lived worse lives is one often used to obscure the clinical nature of standards we attribute to quality of life such as lifespan, infant mortality, food security, and housing. This is because it allows corporations to trivialize the impact of doubling the workload by normalizing the 40 hour work week and housework and child care, what used to be two people’s worth of work, into one.
Are we living ‘better’ lives? On paper, sure. Are we living happier lives? That’s hard to say.
Most of the people worked 24/7 on their farm and had to give most of their crops to their feudal lord from which they were completely dependend for land and protection against bandits. And later people worked 7 days a week 10-12 hours in factories.
And alone the medical development clearly is a great improvement in happiness. Just imagine that newborns surviving until infancy was the exception rather than the norm. And women died regularly during childbirth. Tooth problems were causing tremendous chronic pain and often lead to death. Only cancer was a lesser problem because people simply didn’t live long enough for it to be very prevalent.
I am not saying things could be better now. But we don’t have to romanticize the past. For me it is rather motivating to see how far we have come already and that we also can overcome the challenges of our time.
We don’t have to romanticize the present either.
People still work 10-12 hours a week except they still have to buy their own groceries, cook food, clean the house, take care of their kids, and every other logistic that goes into housework. The idea that people always worked more and had less leisurely time in the past is one often used to downplay the impact of unpaid female domestic labor in the past to justify to expecting it of every person in the present.
Moreover, preindustrial workers only worked 1440 hours annually compared to the modern standard of 2080 hours. And that does not even include unpaid domestic labor.
Yes, it’s great to have all the social advances and modern comforts that we do. But humans are not machines where by indefinitely increase our quality of life we can expect an indefinite increase in hours worked. Just because we have smartphones, AC, cars, and whatever modern luxury you want to include, it doesn’t mean that suddenly we can work 12 hours a day every day and mentally stay sane.
I dunno I prefer not being murdered for practicing (or even converting from) the wrong religion, dying of plague or famine, or being enslaved for economic convenience. But maybe that’s just me.
That really doesn’t narrow it down, if we are talking about the past or present.
Yes but I’d much rather prefer wandering through a bountiful forest to a stream crammed with fish, build a lean-to from what’s around me, and sleep cozy and warm under pine boughs on a moss mattress.
Agriculture broke us.
And be always afraid of being killed by a tiger or other predators. Constantly worrying about not finding enough food. Having insects crawl all over and inside you while sleeping or a snake choking you to death.
Yeah I call bullshit. What’s stopping you from living your dream if it’s that great?
Private property laws and the collapse of the biosphere
R.I.P. saimen choked to death on a larger than a average black python one Saturday night in the truck stop.
And squandered the shit out of it.
The rise of the middle class was definitely a historical anomaly. Most of history has been the top 1% oppressing most everyone else.
As a millennial born in the Balkans: economic collapse, hyperinflation, dictatorship, economic collapse, war, revolution, y2k, global economic crisis, end of the mayan calendar, semi-dictatorship, (self-imposed) exile, brexit, covid, war v3, climate crisis getting real, revolution again? (idk I don’t live in my home country anymore), whatever the hell is happening now
Interesting times indeed
economic collapse, hyperinflation, dictatorship, economic collapse, war, revolution, y2k, global economic crisis, end of the mayan calendar, semi-dictatorship, (self-imposed) exile, brexit, covid, war v3, climate crisis getting real, revolution again?
We didn’t start the fire.
End of mayan calendar ? Now that would be interesting…
Was it really still an official calendar system? In what country?
The big end of the world in December 2012 was based on the Mayan calendar.
Among all the apocalypses in the last 30ish years, 2012 was the best one so far. Mystical end-of-the-world prophecies have really lost popularity since.
It was a really dumb one, though, all based on a misunderstanding of what that calendar represented. We basically reached the end of an era in the Mayan system. Like, we don’t usually think rolling over from 1999 to 2000 would cause the world to actually end (as long as our computer systems aren’t all l abbreviating dates).
Like, they ran out of rock, so they stopped their calendar there instead of continuing.
At this point, atomic hellfire sounds like a nice releaf.
